[Pauldotcom] That degrees do you have?

[John Navarro]

That's good to hear! I was just reading this thread and wondering about
those of us without degrees.

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Brett Hoff <bhoff at itworldclass.com> wrote:

>  I have no degree! I am also a state accredited instructor and have
> designed my own security pen testing syllabus that has been approved by the
> state for 2 years.
>
> personally I believe in the hands on experience vs. the Academia.
>
> what I do have is the sec+, Ethical hacking, Linux+, GCFA and the RHCT
> I teach the sec and Linux classes and even recognized by redhat as able to
> teach all the classes in the open source academy.
>
> So Teaching is possible with out the degrees you just have to find the
> right place that will work with you.
>
> for example the college here UWF you have to be a PhD or mD to teach and
> they are allowing me to teach not the entire classes but modules from the
> classes that
> I have expertise in.
>
> Hope that helps
>
>
> Brett Hoff
>
> RHCT, Linux +, Security+
>
> Senior Security and Linux instructor
>
> Senior IT Security Engineer
>
> *GCFA* "Certified Forensics Analyst"
>
> Antler Computer Consulting
>
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>
> We do IT World Class!
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>
>
> 850-857-7707
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>
>
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> *From:* pauldotcom-bounces at mail.pauldotcom.com [mailto:
> pauldotcom-bounces at mail.pauldotcom.com] *On Behalf Of *Butturini, Russell
> *Sent:* Friday, October 02, 2009 7:22 AM
> *To:* PaulDotCom Security Weekly Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [Pauldotcom] That degrees do you have?
>
>  I have a B.S. in Management Information Systems, and also teach infosec
> classes.  If you want to teach, one thing you have to watch out for now
> though is, depending on where you teach and who their accrediting body is,
> there is a movement towards requiring that you have a degree that meets two
> conditions:
>
> 1.  The degree must be one level higher than the level of the class you are
> teaching (i.e. if you are teaching an associate level class you need a
> bachelor’s degree, if you are teaching a bachelor’s level class you need a
> master’s degree, etc.)
>
> 2.  The degree must be directly related to the field you are teaching (i.e.
> if you are teaching Infosec classes, your degree must be in infosec instead
> of MIS etc.)
>
>
>
> They tend to let me slide on #2 because I have enough IT certifications for
> them to justify it to the accreditation committee.  But again, it varies
> between accrediting bodies.
>
>
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> *From:* pauldotcom-bounces at mail.pauldotcom.com [mailto:
> pauldotcom-bounces at mail.pauldotcom.com] *On Behalf Of *Adrian Crenshaw
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:54 PM
> *To:* PaulDotCom Security Weekly Mailing List
> *Subject:* [Pauldotcom] That degrees do you have?
>
>
>
> I find myself very disappointed with higher education, price for
> performance, ethics, etc. I have a BS in CS (I like saying it that way) and
> am working on an MBA, but their idea of ethics is not my idea of ethics.
>
> I'm curious, what degrees do some of you have? I'm interested in finding a
> job teaching infosec, so if you teach I'd really like to hear what
> credentials you have.
>
> Adrian
>
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